Re: start simple, use documents you already have, then figure out a way to get what you need Re: [greenstone-users] How to write a source document?

From J H
DateSun, 26 Oct 2003 17:11:37 +0800
Subject Re: start simple, use documents you already have, then figure out a way to get what you need Re: [greenstone-users] How to write a source document?
Hi Karen!

>Start simple, use documents you already have, then figure out a way to get
>what you need out of them.
I have no existing documents. Trying to create a new library from scratch.

Specifically, I need to be able to file documents under a hierarchy
(categories). Much like how the Greenstone demo does it. Question is, how do
I tell the Collector which category I want which document to fall under?

Also, I need documents to belong to more than 1 category. A many (documents)
to many (categories) relationship.

In short, I'm trying to find documentation on "how to write source documents
_in_a_format_ that would allow full control over how Greenstone displays and
organizes them.

>Suggestion: create a collection without retouching the documents and see
>what greenstone already pulls out and where it pulls it from. That may
>start you off. Then the documentation may make more sense.
I tried writing some text documents. Greenstone shows them as is, verbatim.
No pulling, no formatting. The documentation may make sense somewhere.
Problem is, the documentation is incoherent at best (to a user). Relevant
info dispersed over a structure that might have been conceived by a
developer (tech person) rather than a user.

>(I am just a user of greenstone, so my opinion is not that of the
>deisgners of the system or of other users.)
Precisely. :-) So am I. It seems the designers of the system wrote the
manuals for themselves, really.

>I do some Greenstone stuff with music-ir.org
>
>But I started off using html collections, pdf and MS Word collections and
>kind of figured out what was going on by trial and error.
That would probably flush down the drain thousands of dollars in re-R&D
(re-invention of wheel). I have to answer for the costs.

>Now, we actually create our records in a modified Procite format
>We converted a plugin to handle our made-up structure, and it works fairly
>well.
That's the know-how I need! But I wouldn't mind writing in a structure that
Greenstone already understands.

>Take a look at the actual record of any of our items to see what it
>looks like.
>http://music-ir.org/mirbib2/library?a=p&p=about&c=mirabp
>(search for Witten as an author)
I'm currently looking through all of Witten's literature to learn more about
digital libraries.

>On Sun, 26 Oct 2003, J H wrote:
>
> > I can't find a tutorial on how to write a source document. I've looked
>high
> > and low, no luck. Baffling how all the manuals I downloaded didn't
>breathe a
> > single coherent paragraph about it (there are disembodied references of
> > `<Section>' tags).
> >
> > I'm assuming that the HTMLPlug will read a html source document. And
>this
> > source document is really a book written in a special format (with HTML
> > tags) that can be recognized by Greenstone's Collector. Correct me if
>I'm
> > wrong.
> >
> > Thanks.
>--------------------------->>>>>***<<<<<---------------------------
>Karen E Medina
>
>Sometimes reachable through: 217/244-2757

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