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Today's Topics:

1. Re: Q: Adding -collectdir to gli.bat (Michael Dewsnip)
2. Re: Shared build folder? (Michael Dewsnip)
3. Re: classifier based on ex.Subject (Michael Dewsnip)
4. New installation -- can't get in as admin user
(Gregory S. Williamson)
5. Re: New installation -- can't get in as admin user
(Michael Dewsnip)
6. RE: New installation -- can't get in as adminuser
(Gregory S. Williamson)
7. Re: Shared build folder? (Chaitra Rao)
8. missing file in 2.52 upgrade? (richrobinson@gtcinternet.com)
9. GLI Requirements (Richard Managh)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 12:12:27 +1300
From: Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] Q: Adding -collectdir to gli.bat
To: Gord Nickerson <gnickers@uwo.ca>
Cc: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID: <4185715B.D943E8A1@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
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Hi Gord,

The GLI doesn't have this option at present (import.pl and buildcol.pl do), but
it would obviously be useful. I've added it to our "to do" list, and hopefully it
will make it into the next release.

If you know a bit of Java you could add this option yourself. You'll need to add
code for parsing the option in GetOpt.java, and modify getCollectDir() in
util/Utility.java to use the value you've specified. However, I imagine there
will be other things you'll need to change to run the GLI in a network
environment. The GLI writes other files to the local drive -- you'll need to fix
these up too, and you'll have to worry about where the "modelcol" directory is,
etc. etc. We need to tidy all this up, and it will probably be a bit of work.

Another option is to install the GLI applet on a server and have people run it
over the network. Collection files will be stored on the network drive in this
case.

Regards,

Michael

Gord Nickerson wrote:

> We installed Greenstone on a windows 2003 server (local library install).
>
> However the default is to have their collections on the local workstation C:
> drive which is no good in a network environment.
>
> I see there is a -collectdir option that could be added to gli.bat so they can
> save collection to their U: drive, has anyone modified gli.bat to use a mapped
> drive? And if so, can you send me their changes so i can see how it works?
>
> thanks
> --
> Gord Nickerson
> Faculty of Media and Information Studies
> NCB 288
> x86659
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 13:37:31 +1300
From: Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] Shared build folder?
To: Chaitra Rao <chaitra@it.iitb.ac.in>
Cc: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID: <4185854B.C7585D15@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi,

> Hi,
> I was wondering if I could have a shared folder where people could add
> files and the librarian just builds it from command line or have an
> automated script that does this. The people in our lab are very impressed
> with the greenstone interface and its functionalities but have expressed
> their desire to have some kinduva distributed system where they could add
> to the collection.Greenstone version3 was not found very useful since the
> applet takes a lot of time to download. Is there any way I could have them
> upload the files into the collect/collection-name/import directory so that
> the librarian could build it later or have a script do this?

Yes you can do this, exactly as you describe: have people upload their data
into the collect/collection-name/import directory, and have a project leader
rebuild the collection periodically. You just need a way of moving data
around your network -- how to do this depends on your network, and is
independent of Greenstone.

Regards,

Michael

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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 15:01:19 +1300
From: Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] classifier based on ex.Subject
To: vdlb1@free.fr
Cc: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID: <418598EF.6A509618@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi Vincent,

I can't quite picture what you're trying to do in my head, but here is my
best attempt at answering your question.

If you have section-level metadata then you need to use one of the
SectionList classifiers. You've got part of the way there with an
AZSectionList, but you're not getting the right thing displayed for some
classifier nodes. This means you need to edit the format statement for this
classifier. Instead of displaying the Title of the chapter you want to
display the Subject, so try changing

{Or}{[dls.Title],[dc.Title],[Title],Untitled}

to

{If}{[numleafdocs],[Title],[Subject]}

Also, there is an AZCompactSectionList classifier that should group
together nodes with the same value (in the same way as AZCompactList does).

If you still can't get this to work please send me personally a couple of
your documents and a diagram showing how you want the classifier to look,
and I'll try it here.

Regards,

Michael

Vincent Dubuc wrote:

> Hello.
> I am trying to make a digital library of french political newspaper and
> books.
> My problem is to get the proper subject classifier : I easily classified
> the main subjects (using the dls.Subject.txt file with a hierarchy
> classifier) but can't manage to make one which would include the
> ex.Subject extracted by the Rec plugin. the wanted result is a
> navigation classifier that would only lead to the relevant chapters and
> not only to the whole book
> The only thing I manage to get is with an AZSection list (AZSectionList
> -metadata ex.Subject) but what would appear in the result is not the
> needed Subject but the Title of the chapter on which the Subject refeer.
>
> For exemple in a book dedicated to the biography of a lot of people, so
> with general Subject "biography" there's a chapter on Tolstoï hence the
> ex.Subject I wanted : "Tolstoï" which would lead to the only chapter
> dedicated to him.
> the AZSectionList classifier would wok by leading to the proper chapter
> what would be shown in the classifier navigation is the Title of the
> chapter, in that cast "Tolstoi his wok and life", so any other document
> with ex.Subject "Tolstoï" would not be classified together
>
> The ex.Subject are included in the dls.Subject.txt
> The classify Hierarchy -metadata dls.Subject.txt shows some of the
> wanted subjects, but without any link to the document....
>
> If anyone can help, it would be very appreciate
>
> Vincent Dubuc
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 19:28:18 -0800
From: "Gregory S. Williamson" <gsw@globexplorer.com>
Subject: [greenstone-users] New installation -- can't get in as admin
user
To: <greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz>,
<greenstone-devel@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz>
Message-ID:
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After a fair amount of flailing I have got a linux version running with an Apache 2 server. I can browse the demo collection quite happily, but I really need to be doing more.

Alas, the person who set this up is gone and the transcript of the install doesn't save the password ...

Any way to work with this other than reinstalling Greenstone ?

Off-line mail is welcome ... i can see not sharing this info but i am very wary of reinstalling gsdl -- been quite an excursion.

Thanks!

Greg Williamson

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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 01 Nov 2004 17:06:16 +1300
From: Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] New installation -- can't get in as
admin user
To: "Gregory S. Williamson" <gsw@globexplorer.com>
Cc: greenstone-devel@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz,
greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID: <4185B638.D5D1F298@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Greg,

Sorry to hear you've had trouble installing Greenstone on Linux... is there anything in particular that could be done/documented better?

You can change the "admin" user password by following these steps:

1. Source setup.bash in the gsdl directory
2. In the gsdl/etc directory, run db2txt users.db >users.db.txt
3. Run getpw, and enter your desired password (twice)
4. Copy the output of the getpw program over the password entry for the admin user in the users.db.txt file
5. Run cat users.db.txt | txt2db users.db to write the new users.db file

Note that you don't actually use this admin user for much... you don't need it for building collections with the GLI, for example.

Regards,

Michael

"Gregory S. Williamson" wrote:

> After a fair amount of flailing I have got a linux version running with an Apache 2 server. I can browse the demo collection quite happily, but I really need to be doing more.
>
> Alas, the person who set this up is gone and the transcript of the install doesn't save the password ...
>
> Any way to work with this other than reinstalling Greenstone ?
>
> Off-line mail is welcome ... i can see not sharing this info but i am very wary of reinstalling gsdl -- been quite an excursion.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Williamson
>
> _______________________________________________
> greenstone-users mailing list
> greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
> https://list.scms.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/greenstone-users


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 31 Oct 2004 20:35:00 -0800
From: "Gregory S. Williamson" <gsw@globexplorer.com>
Subject: RE: [greenstone-users] New installation -- can't get in as
adminuser
To: "Michael Dewsnip" <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Cc: greenstone-devel@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz,
greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID:
<71E37EF6B7DCC1499CEA0316A256832801D4BA47@loki.wc.globexplorer.net>Content-Type: text/plain;charset="Windows-1252"

Thanks for the quick response!

I'll use this on Tuesday evening when i am next in proximity to the server. I don't think this box has Java and isn't on the internet -- doesn't GLI require Java runtime ?

Greg W.

-----Original Message-----
From:Michael Dewsnip [mailto:mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz]
Sent:Sun 10/31/2004 8:06 PM
To:Gregory S. Williamson
Cc:greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz; greenstone-devel@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Subject:Re: [greenstone-users] New installation -- can't get in as adminuser
Hi Greg,

Sorry to hear you've had trouble installing Greenstone on Linux... is there anything in particular that could be done/documented better?

You can change the "admin" user password by following these steps:

1. Source setup.bash in the gsdl directory
2. In the gsdl/etc directory, run db2txt users.db >users.db.txt
3. Run getpw, and enter your desired password (twice)
4. Copy the output of the getpw program over the password entry for the admin user in the users.db.txt file
5. Run cat users.db.txt | txt2db users.db to write the new users.db file

Note that you don't actually use this admin user for much... you don't need it for building collections with the GLI, for example.

Regards,

Michael

"Gregory S. Williamson" wrote:

> After a fair amount of flailing I have got a linux version running with an Apache 2 server. I can browse the demo collection quite happily, but I really need to be doing more.
>
> Alas, the person who set this up is gone and the transcript of the install doesn't save the password ...
>
> Any way to work with this other than reinstalling Greenstone ?
>
> Off-line mail is welcome ... i can see not sharing this info but i am very wary of reinstalling gsdl -- been quite an excursion.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Greg Williamson
>
> _______________________________________________
> greenstone-users mailing list
> greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
> https://list.scms.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/greenstone-users

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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 11:01:02 +0530 (IST)
From: Chaitra Rao <chaitra@it.iitb.ac.in>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] Shared build folder?
To: Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Cc: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID:
<Pine.LNX.4.44.0411011058470.10985-100000@fornax.it.iitb.ac.in>
Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII

Hi,
I tried this. I tried physically placing some docs in the import
directory of the collection and built it using the gli. It didn't work. I
tried the same using command line build command. It threw some
errors. Can you tell me if I'm doing something wrong?

Thanx in advance :)

Regards,
Chaitra

On Mon, 1 Nov 2004, Michael Dewsnip wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > Hi,
> > I was wondering if I could have a shared folder where people could add
> > files and the librarian just builds it from command line or have an
> > automated script that does this. The people in our lab are very impressed
> > with the greenstone interface and its functionalities but have expressed
> > their desire to have some kinduva distributed system where they could add
> > to the collection.Greenstone version3 was not found very useful since the
> > applet takes a lot of time to download. Is there any way I could have them
> > upload the files into the collect/collection-name/import directory so that
> > the librarian could build it later or have a script do this?
>
> Yes you can do this, exactly as you describe: have people upload their data
> into the collect/collection-name/import directory, and have a project leader
> rebuild the collection periodically. You just need a way of moving data
> around your network -- how to do this depends on your network, and is
> independent of Greenstone.
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
>


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 1 Nov 2004 09:31:13 -0800
From: richrobinson@gtcinternet.com
Subject: [greenstone-users] missing file in 2.52 upgrade?
To: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID: <1099330273.418672e141ecc@webmail.gtcinternet.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi, I upgraded from 2.51 to 2.52 on Windows local library - the following was
part of a message posted earlier this year - I don't see that oai.cfg was
installed, but the new version does come up on my computer...

BTW is there any detailed docs on the new features?

Rich

- A new OAI server built into Greenstone -- see the etc/oai.cfg file for
details

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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 02 Nov 2004 09:52:40 +1300
From: Richard Managh <richard@dlconsulting.co.nz>
Subject: [greenstone-users] GLI Requirements
To: "Gregory S. Williamson" <gsw@globexplorer.com>
Cc: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID: <4186A218.2010209@dlconsulting.co.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Hi Greg,

Yes it does,

Regards,

Richard


Gregory S. Williamson wrote:

>Thanks for the quick response!
>
>I'll use this on Tuesday evening when i am next in proximity to the server. I don't think this box has Java and isn't on the internet -- doesn't GLI require Java runtime ?
>
>Greg W.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From:Michael Dewsnip [mailto:mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz]
>Sent:Sun 10/31/2004 8:06 PM
>To:Gregory S. Williamson
>Cc:greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz; greenstone-devel@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
>Subject:Re: [greenstone-users] New installation -- can't get in as adminuser
>Hi Greg,
>
>Sorry to hear you've had trouble installing Greenstone on Linux... is there anything in particular that could be done/documented better?
>
>You can change the "admin" user password by following these steps:
>
>1. Source setup.bash in the gsdl directory
>2. In the gsdl/etc directory, run db2txt users.db >users.db.txt
>3. Run getpw, and enter your desired password (twice)
>4. Copy the output of the getpw program over the password entry for the admin user in the users.db.txt file
>5. Run cat users.db.txt | txt2db users.db to write the new users.db file
>
>Note that you don't actually use this admin user for much... you don't need it for building collections with the GLI, for example.
>
>Regards,
>
>Michael
>
>
>
>"Gregory S. Williamson" wrote:
>
>
>
>>After a fair amount of flailing I have got a linux version running with an Apache 2 server. I can browse the demo collection quite happily, but I really need to be doing more.
>>
>>Alas, the person who set this up is gone and the transcript of the install doesn't save the password ...
>>
>>Any way to work with this other than reinstalling Greenstone ?
>>
>>Off-line mail is welcome ... i can see not sharing this info but i am very wary of reinstalling gsdl -- been quite an excursion.
>>
>>Thanks!
>>
>>Greg Williamson
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>greenstone-users mailing list
>>greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
>>https://list.scms.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/greenstone-users
>>
>>
>
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