[greenstone-users] Re: greenstone-users Digest, Vol 33, Issue 7 (Away from Office)

From Devon Cinnamon
DateFri, 16 Dec 2005 02:47:31 -0500
Subject [greenstone-users] Re: greenstone-users Digest, Vol 33, Issue 7 (Away from Office)
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Today's Topics:

1. Re: FW: Probelm in running ImagePlug in Windows 98
(Michael Dewsnip)
2. Re: Using a remote Greenstone server - 500 Internalserver
error (Michael Dewsnip)
3. Re: Explode cds/isis metadata database: problemwith
diacritics (Michael Dewsnip)
4. Re: FW: Probelm in running ImagePlug in Windows 98
(Stephen DeGabrielle)
5. Re: Linking to pdfs only (Stephen DeGabrielle)
6. Re: Collage; Pdf files (Michael Dewsnip)
7. KOS in Digital Libraries (Bhojaraju G)
8. KOS in Digital Libraries (Bhojaraju G)
9. Re: Using a remote Greenstone server - 500 Internalserver
error (Chaitra Rao)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:29:29 +1300
From: Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] FW: Probelm in running ImagePlug in
Windows 98
To: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Cc: cmkwan@hkucc.hku.hk
Message-ID: <43A1E039.4000001@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Alvin,

Unfortunately ImagePlug does not work on Windows 95/98. This is because
ImageMagick (which ImagePlug uses to process the images) writes its
output to STDERR, and this cannot be redirected on these operating
systems.

It may be possible to work around this somehow, or newer versions of
ImageMagick may work differently, but we don't have time to look at this
right now, and I'm afraid this job is getting less and less important as
fewer people use these OSs. It is on our "to do" list however, and
hopefully we will get to it soon.

Sorry I couldn't be any help,

Michael

>Subject: Probelm in running ImagePlug in Windows 98
>From: "Dr. Alvin Kwan" <cmkwan@hkucc.hku.hk>
>Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:24:53 +0800
>To: <greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz>
>
>Dear Sir,
>
>
>
>My student had tried to follow the Greenstone tutorial to build an
image
>collection but failed. Apparently ImagePlug plugin does not work
>properly in Windows 98. I had checked the mail archive and noticed
that
>the problem was once raised a couple of years back. However I failed
to
>find out the remedy from the archive. The versions of Greenstone and
>ImageMagick being used are 2.62 and 6.2.5 Q16 respectively. The system
>messages are as follows:
>
>
>
>......
>
>The file imagesAscent.jpg is being processed by ImagePlug.
>
>The file imagesAscent.jpg encountered an error during processing.
>(Windows 95/98 not supported)
>
>The file imagesAscent.jpg was recognised but could not be processed by
>any plugin.
>
>************** Import Finished **************
>
>19 documents were considered for processing:
>
> 19 were rejected.
>
>************** Build Started **************
>
>Compressing text...
>
>Creating an index based on document:text...
>
>Creating auxiliary files and tidying up...
>
>************** Build Finished **************
>
>The preview result is:
>
>This collection contains 0 documents. It was last built 0 days ago.
>
>
>
>
>
>Best regards,
>
>Alvin
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:36:56 +1300
From: Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] Using a remote Greenstone server - 500
Internalserver error
To: Chaitra Rao <chaitra@it.iitb.ac.in>
Cc: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID: <43A1E1F8.6080107@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi,

> I do have the Carp Module in the Perl Installation. I do not have
any
>other Perl installation on my m/c excpet the one bundled with
greenstone.
>However I do have older versions of greenstone on my m/c each with
PERL. I
>checked all of them and they do have the Carp module in each of them.
>
> Can't figure out what else could be wrong? I restarted my m/c yet
again
>and it didnt work this time too :(
>
>
Restarting it once is enough -- restarting it any more than that isn't
going to have any effect.

I suggest you try running the gliserver script from the command prompt
to see if you get the same error. Start a command prompt, change to the
Greenstone directory, run "setup", then change into the "cgi-bin"
directory and run "perl -S gliserver".

Regards,

Michael

>>Hi,
>>
>>Looking at line 3 of CGI.pm (where the error is occuring):
>>
>> use Carp 'croak';
>>
>>suggests that your Perl installation (on the server) might be missing
>>the Carp module. Check that the Carp module and directory exists in
the
>>Greenstone "binwindowsperllib" directory.
>>
>>Do you have other installations of Perl on the server? If so, check
that
>>these installations have the Carp module installed in their "lib"
>>directory.
>>
>>Regards,
>>
>>Michael
>>
>>
>>
>>Chaitra Rao wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>xHi All,
>>> I was trying to install the remote greenatone feature of
greenstone as
>>>mentioned in the documentation on ur website. I get the 502 Internal
>>>server erro. I restarted Windows and Apache 3 times and yet unable to

>>>solve this problem. Apache error log shows the following entry
>>>
>>>[Tue Dec 06 12:45:01 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] BEGIN
>>>failed--compilation aborted at CGI.pm line 3.r
>>>[Tue Dec 06 12:45:01 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] BEGIN
>>>failed--compilation aborted at gsdlCGI.pm line 4.r
>>>[Tue Dec 06 12:45:01 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] BEGIN
>>>failed--compilation aborted at E:/Program
Files/gs2.62/cgi-bin/gliserver
>>>line 4.r
>>>
>>>What can I do to solve this problem? Please help!
>>>
>>>Regards,
>>>Chaitra
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>
>
>


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:30:14 +1300
From: Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] Explode cds/isis metadata database:
problemwithdiacritics
To: Pablo.MORETE@cepal.org
Cc: Greenstone <greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz>
Message-ID: <43A218A6.2000308@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Dear Pablo,

You need to specify Latin 1 as the input encoding when exploding the
metadata database. Unfortunately, due to an oversight on our part, the
only options for "input_encoding" are "auto", "ascii", "utf8" and
"unicode".

I have updated the explode_metadata_database.pl script to include all of
the encodings supported by Greenstone, including Latin 1 (iso_8859_1).
You can download the updated script from
http://www.cs.waikato.ac.nz/~mdewsnip/greenstone/temp/explode_metadata_database.pl.
You should put this in your Greenstone "bin/script" directory,
overwriting the existing file. Then, re-explode the database and specify
"iso_8859_1" as the input encoding, and everything should be fine.

Thanks for pointing out this problem.

All the best,

Michael

Pablo.MORETE@cepal.org wrote:

>Dear all:
> I am trying to implement the "explode" feature
for
>my cds/isis database in order to index the full text of the pdf files
>whose location is provided in one of the database fields.
>I first import the cds/isis database using Latin 1 as input encoding
in
>the ISISPlug configuration and accent marks used in Spanish are
displayed
>well. But when I explode the metadata database and then treat it with
>NULPlug all diacritics get replaced by strange symbols.
>I apreciate any idea on how to solve this problem.
>Thanks,
>
>Pablo
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:28:09 +0930
From: Stephen DeGabrielle <spdegabrielle@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] FW: Probelm in running ImagePlug in
Windows 98
To: Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Cc: cmkwan@hkucc.hku.hk, greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID:
<595b9ab20512151758y51f91119nc934adb6b62a052c@mail.gmail.com>
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More Options;

You may still be able to use imageMagick to make thumbnails /extract
metadata manually - this would probably more work than you are willing
to expend on a student project.

The other option is to do the import on a modern machine (any win2000
or greater, Linux or mac OS X would be fine and completely compatible)
, and then copy it to the win98 machine for build'ing. This should
allow your student to work on configuring the collection. (Including
adding metadata, defining classifiers, format etc)

BTW - Modern linux distros run fine on old (win98) machines and can
often [non-destructively]repartition your hard drive without wiping
your windows 98 installation. A good way of breathing new life into an
old machine. (and fully greenstone compatible)

s.


On 12/16/05, Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz> wrote:
> Hi Alvin,
>
> Unfortunately ImagePlug does not work on Windows 95/98. This is
because
> ImageMagick (which ImagePlug uses to process the images) writes its
> output to STDERR, and this cannot be redirected on these operating
systems.
>
> It may be possible to work around this somehow, or newer versions of
> ImageMagick may work differently, but we don't have time to look at
this
> right now, and I'm afraid this job is getting less and less important
as
> fewer people use these OSs. It is on our "to do" list however, and
> hopefully we will get to it soon.
>
> Sorry I couldn't be any help,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> >Subject: Probelm in running ImagePlug in Windows 98
> >From: "Dr. Alvin Kwan" <cmkwan@hkucc.hku.hk>
> >Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 21:24:53 +0800
> >To: <greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz>
> >
> >Dear Sir,
> >
> >
> >
> >My student had tried to follow the Greenstone tutorial to build an
image
> >collection but failed. Apparently ImagePlug plugin does not work
> >properly in Windows 98. I had checked the mail archive and noticed
that
> >the problem was once raised a couple of years back. However I failed
to
> >find out the remedy from the archive. The versions of Greenstone and
> >ImageMagick being used are 2.62 and 6.2.5 Q16 respectively. The
system
> >messages are as follows:
> >
> >
> >
> >......
> >
> >The file imagesAscent.jpg is being processed by ImagePlug.
> >
> >The file imagesAscent.jpg encountered an error during processing.
> >(Windows 95/98 not supported)
> >
> >The file imagesAscent.jpg was recognised but could not be processed
by
> >any plugin.
> >
> >************** Import Finished **************
> >
> >19 documents were considered for processing:
> >
> > 19 were rejected.
> >
> >************** Build Started **************
> >
> >Compressing text...
> >
> >Creating an index based on document:text...
> >
> >Creating auxiliary files and tidying up...
> >
> >************** Build Finished **************
> >
> >The preview result is:
> >
> >This collection contains 0 documents. It was last built 0 days ago.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >Best regards,
> >
> >Alvin
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >greenstone-users mailing list
> >greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
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> >
> >
> >
> >
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--

Stephen De Gabrielle

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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:37:02 +0930
From: Stephen DeGabrielle <spdegabrielle@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] Linking to pdfs only
To: "Yachnes, Paul" <paul.yachnes@naa.org>,
"greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz"
<greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz>
Message-ID:
<595b9ab20512151807te0260c3j7c8b7af38b8c4a5a@mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Its in your configuration file and starts

format DocumentText '

This line controls what you see when you click on the default links
(the one that goes to the non-existant text versions in your case)

It is described [briefly] in the developers guide round pages 30-40
along with the outer format statements I think?

I'd change it from

format DocumentText ' [text]'

to something like

format DocumentText ' <a href= "[sourcefile]">PDF version</a>'

Sorry I can't be more specific - I am in a hurry and don't have time
to look it up myself. (Check the greenstone archives - someone has
probably already had this problem)

Good luck

Stephen

On 12/16/05, Yachnes, Paul <paul.yachnes@naa.org> wrote:
> > 2) The document links in the Phind classifier link to the
> > nonexistent text versions. How can I make them link to the pdf
> versions?
>
> You could change the 'format DocumentText' to refer to the PDF using a
> {If} directive like above.
>
>
>
> I can't find that. Could you tell me where that is? And what would the
> statement look like? I can't figure out from all the code you sent me.
> Thanks.
>
> Paul A. Yachnes, MLS
> Senior Manager
> Information Resource Center
> Newspaper Association of America
> (703) 902-1694
> fax: (703) 902-1691
> yachp@naa.org
>
>


--

--

Stephen De Gabrielle

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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:24:33 +1300
From: Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] Collage; Pdf files
To: Svetlana Branhouse <svetlana.branhouse@avapac.com>
Cc: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID: <43A23371.7030309@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Svetlana,

>1 - PDF files. The collection search would return the pdf files
>represented as text & pictures extracted separately (one icon), and as
a
>full pdf document (second icon). The first type comes up OK. The second

>(full pdf file) comes up with the error message: "The file is damaged
and
>could not be repaired". (The actual file is fine, and not damaged).
>Other pdf files start download through the web browser and end up just
as
>a blank page and message "Done" in the bottom of the browser window.
What
>could be wrong?
>
>
When you click on the PDF icon to access the PDF file you are accessing
this file directly (without Greenstone's intervention), so either your
browser is handling these badly (can you view PDFs on other sites OK?)
or the PDFs in the built collection have been corrupted somehow. This is
unlikely, but you should look in the "index/assoc" directory of the
collection and check the doc.pdf files in the HASH directories (by
opening them) to make sure they are undamaged.

>2 - Is there a way of showing PDF files in the search results as a
>thumbnail (similar to image files?)
>
>
This will require a bit of manual work on your part, or some changes to
PDFPlug (which will require some Perl programming knowledge).

You can manually open the PDFs and save the first page as a JPEG image,
then scale it to the correct size. You'll need to name this image the
same as the PDF (eg. if the pdf is "document1.pdf" then the image must
be "document1.jpg"), and put it in the import directory along with the
PDF. Then re-import and re-build your collection.

Lastly, you'll need to change the formatting to display this image
instead of the PDF icon. In the "Format Features" part of GLI's Design
pane, edit the VList format statement and replace the "[srcicon]" bit
with "{If}{[hascover],<img src='[DocImage]'>,[srcicon]}".

>3 - Collage. I did not find much correspondence in the Greensone-users
>conference. Where can I read more documentation on setting to work
right?
>(At the moment it is really slow; I cannot work it out, how it actually

>classifies the documents - it gives some cascading structure which does

>not seem logical...)
>
>
The Collage applet seems to be in a bad state at the moment. I'm
planning to do some work on it next week, and I'll let you know when a
new version is ready.

Regards,

Michael


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Message: 7
Date: 16 Dec 2005 06:26:29 -0000
From: "Bhojaraju G" <bhojaraju.g@rediffmail.com>
Subject: [greenstone-users] KOS in Digital Libraries
To: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
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I kindly ask you to help me with my thesis. Any answers I will receive
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In case you maintain a Digital Library, I would like to know the
following:


How the Knowledge is organised in your DL? =

Which classification do you use Do you use standardized schemes or
Customis=
ed classification? =

Which query system do you use in your database? Do you use a Search
Engine? =

Do you use any Thesaurus or Concept Mapping and Visualization tools? =

How do you classify content? Do you use any tools? Is it manual or
auto-cat=
egorisation? =

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+91-944 836 9905
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Message: 8
Date: 16 Dec 2005 06:29:20 -0000
From: "Bhojaraju G" <bhojaraju.g@rediffmail.com>
Subject: [greenstone-users] KOS in Digital Libraries
To: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
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Confidential and for Research Purpose only =


Dear Sir/Madam,

I am doing a study on "Knowledge Organisation System (KOS) in Digital
Libra=
ries (DLs)". =


I kindly ask you to help me with my thesis. Any answers I will receive
from=
you about the following will be kept confidential and used for Research
pu=
rpose only.

In case you maintain a Digital Library, I would like to know the
following:


How the Knowledge is organised in your DL? =

Which classification do you use Do you use standardized schemes or
Customis=
ed classification? =

Which query system do you use in your database? Do you use a Search
Engine? =

Do you use any Thesaurus or Concept Mapping and Visualization tools? =

How do you classify content? Do you use any tools? Is it manual or
auto-cat=
egorisation? =

Thank you in advance for your kind effort.

Raju (Bhojaraju G)
+91-944 836 9905
Librarian=96Knowledge Management
Bangalore, INDIA. =

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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:37:03 +0530 (IST)
From: Chaitra Rao <chaitra@it.iitb.ac.in>
Subject: Re: [greenstone-users] Using a remote Greenstone server - 500
Internalserver error
To: Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>
Cc: greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
Message-ID:
<Pine.LNX.4.44.0512161330200.24020-100000@fornax.it.iitb.ac.in>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Michael,
Thank you so much for the timely response! I tried executing the
gliserver script from the command prompt as u'd suggested. But I get the
same old 500 Internal Error message on the browser :( I get the foll
error
message at the command prompt:

E:Program Filesgs2.62cgi-bin>perl -S gliserver
Name "main::gsdl_cgi" used only once: possible typo at gliserver line
771.

Please help!

Regards,
Chaitra

On Fri, 16 Dec 2005, Michael Dewsnip wrote:

> Hi,
>
> > I do have the Carp Module in the Perl Installation. I do not have
any
> >other Perl installation on my m/c excpet the one bundled with
greenstone.
> >However I do have older versions of greenstone on my m/c each with
PERL. I
> >checked all of them and they do have the Carp module in each of them.
> >
> > Can't figure out what else could be wrong? I restarted my m/c yet
again
> >and it didnt work this time too :(
> >
> >
> Restarting it once is enough -- restarting it any more than that isn't
> going to have any effect.
>
> I suggest you try running the gliserver script from the command prompt
> to see if you get the same error. Start a command prompt, change to
the
> Greenstone directory, run "setup", then change into the "cgi-bin"
> directory and run "perl -S gliserver".
>
> Regards,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Looking at line 3 of CGI.pm (where the error is occuring):
> >>
> >> use Carp 'croak';
> >>
> >>suggests that your Perl installation (on the server) might be
missing
> >>the Carp module. Check that the Carp module and directory exists in
the
> >>Greenstone "binwindowsperllib" directory.
> >>
> >>Do you have other installations of Perl on the server? If so, check
that
> >>these installations have the Carp module installed in their "lib"
> >>directory.
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Michael
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Chaitra Rao wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>xHi All,
> >>> I was trying to install the remote greenatone feature of
greenstone as
> >>>mentioned in the documentation on ur website. I get the 502
Internal
> >>>server erro. I restarted Windows and Apache 3 times and yet unable
to
> >>>solve this problem. Apache error log shows the following entry
> >>>
> >>>[Tue Dec 06 12:45:01 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] BEGIN
> >>>failed--compilation aborted at CGI.pm line 3.r
> >>>[Tue Dec 06 12:45:01 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] BEGIN
> >>>failed--compilation aborted at gsdlCGI.pm line 4.r
> >>>[Tue Dec 06 12:45:01 2005] [error] [client 127.0.0.1] BEGIN
> >>>failed--compilation aborted at E:/Program
Files/gs2.62/cgi-bin/gliserver
> >>>line 4.r
> >>>
> >>>What can I do to solve this problem? Please help!
> >>>
> >>>Regards,
> >>>Chaitra
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>greenstone-users mailing list
> >>>greenstone-users@list.scms.waikato.ac.nz
> >>>https://list.scms.waikato.ac.nz/mailman/listinfo/greenstone-users
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
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