Re: [greenstone-users] Training in Greenstone

From Dominique Babini
DateTue, 20 Jun 2006 13:50:20 -0300
Subject Re: [greenstone-users] Training in Greenstone
In-Reply-To (4495D41B-7060508-cs-waikato-ac-nz)
Dear Michael,
Here are Florencia´s comments as a result of our activity building our 150 Greenstone collections with more than 5.000 full-text documents, and our training workshops in the region:
When one opens Greenstone and wants to download the The Librarian Interface, as it is in Pearl and Java,  it is so heavy that usually in our countries it does not open, or it freezes up and does not work.
Our members in different countries that have downloaded it and tried it, find instructions and logical process (mixing document processing with collection building) not clear at all, and when they are at the end of the process the collection was not working or  the collection was finally different from the design they made at the beginning for lists, presentation of results, etc.   When they saw this, they could not restart the collection, they had to build it again.    Each time you add a document in an existing collection, the librarian interface generates again from scratch  the collection.    This demands too much time and is not practical because you have to have all the time the original (pdf, word, etc.) in the collection together with the xml, because what has been indexed already the librarian interface does not accumulate it.    And no way to think of building a super-collection with the Librarian Interface !!!!
We work from the code and commands and we do not have all these problems.    When we showed  people,  who have had problems with a Greenstone course using the Librarian Interface, how to work from the code and commands, they finally understood what is Greenstone about and they were very happy to use it.
It would help to improve the Librarian interface so it is more clear and practical.
We sincerely hope these comments will help
Dominique
PD: I do not know if to watch the New Zealand vs. Argentina rugby game next weekend (I do not want to cry, I will better look at the football world cup :-)

Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz> en Domingo, 18 de Junio de 2006 a 07:30 p.m. +0000 escribe:
Dear Dominique,

> Yes, accents are a problem when entering metadata in Spanish because
> the Spanish language uses very frequently accents, and in a
> decentralized digital library we need the system to accept the input
> with or without accents.   Soon, we will send you Juan Grigera´s
> interface to solve this issue of accents, for all Greenstone users
> because other languages use accents (ex.: french)
> About which are the difficulties with the librarian interface, we will
> send you Florencia´s input next Tuesday or Wednesday.

Thank you, this will be helpful.

> Good luck to all our Greenstone football fans (we, Argentina, are
> playing today our second game, this time with Serbia and Montenegro)

Here in New Zealand football isn't so popular (especially since we're
not in the World Cup). However we will all be watching the New Zealand
vs. Argentina rugby game in the weekend -- go the All Blacks!! :-)

Michael



> *Michael Dewsnip <mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz
> <mailto:mdewsnip@cs.waikato.ac.nz>> en Viernes, 16 de Junio de 2006 a
> 12:01 a.m. +0000 escribe:
> *Dear Dominique,
>
> Thanks for your e-mail, and it's fantastic to hear about your work
> spreading the word on Greenstone!
>
> We're curious to find out more about your problems with the GLI, because
> we find it invaluable when giving workshops. What sort of problems have
> you had? The issue you mention concerning accents -- is this a problem
> with entering metadata?
>
> All the best,
>
> Michael
>
>
>
> Dominique Babini wrote:
>
>> We would like to share with our Greenstone friends that in the past
>> year we have organized 30 workshops free of charge for 284 editors and
>> librarians from 101 social sciences research institutions of 11
>> countries of Latin America and the Caribbean .    The workshops
>> included, among other topics (e-publishing and portals), a general
>> presentation about Greenstone, how to start a digital library with
>> Greenstone, and a practical session.
>> Many participants had heard about Greenstone before but for all
>> participants in the workshops it was their first practical experience
>> with it.   We have not used the librarian interface because it does
>> not work correctly.   For the problem of accents, we have hired Juan
>> Grigera (University of La Plata, Argentina, juan@grigera.com.ar
> <mailto:juan@grigera.com.ar>
>> <mailto:juan@grigera.com.ar>) who is developing an interface for
>> solving accents in the main languages and this resource will soon be
>> available with no charge for this Greenstone community.
>>
>> Florencia Vergara Rossi, responsible for the virtual library platform
>> and  Greenstone development  (vergara@clacso.edu.ar
> <mailto:vergara@clacso.edu.ar>
>> <mailto:vergara@clacso.edu.ar>)
>> Dominique Babini, coodinator of Information Area at CLACSO
>>
>>
>> PD: Our library provides open access to 5.300 full-text social science
>> books, periodical articles and conference papers published
>> (in Spanish and Portuguese) by CLACSO´s network of 173 research
>> institutions in 21 countries of Latin America and the Caribbean.
>> We receive 70.000 visitors a month in average.
>> ..........................................................
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Dra. Dominique Babini
> Coordinadora
> Red de Bibliotecas Virtuales de Ciencias Sociales
> de América Latina y el Caribe de la red CLACSO
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Dra. Dominique Babini
Coordinadora
Red de Bibliotecas Virtuales de Ciencias Sociales
de América Latina y el Caribe de la red CLACSO
www.clacso.org.ar/biblioteca
dbabini@campus.clacso.edu.ar

Consejo Latinoamericano de Ciencias Sociales (CLACSO)
Av. Callao 875, 3ro. E, (C1023 AAB) Buenos Aires, Argentina
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